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TorchwoodJan 16 2008 09:23 pm #1Guest
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thirty-nine minutes until torchwood (until i get to see james 
)
Not that i'm counting or anything...
Aoife
) Not that i'm counting or anything...
Aoife
Jan 16 2008 09:32 pm #2Guest
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darn those people who live in the UK. Not fair. pouts
Enjoy. Which i know you will
Enjoy. Which i know you will
Jan 16 2008 09:41 pm #3TammyDevil666
Yeah, so not fair, we have to wait until the 26th. It can't come soon enough.
When I say, "I love you," it's not because I want you or because I can't have you. It has nothing to do with me. I love what you are, what you do, how you try. I've seen your kindness and your strength. I've seen the best and the worst of you, and I understand with perfect clarity exactly what you are. You're a hell of a woman. You're the one, Buffy.
Jan 16 2008 10:58 pm #4Guest
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It was good. It was very good. Mainly because James was on screen alot! 
I've never watched torchwood before and i've got to say without James i still don't think i would, but to anyone who wasn't sure whether or not it was worth watching just for james - It really really was!
aoife
I've never watched torchwood before and i've got to say without James i still don't think i would, but to anyone who wasn't sure whether or not it was worth watching just for james - It really really was!
aoife
What happened in it?
"Perhaps a great love is never returned."
-Dag Hammersjold
-Dag Hammersjold
Jan 16 2008 11:02 pm #6TammyDevil666
I've never seen Torchwood before, but will definitely be watching for him.
When I say, "I love you," it's not because I want you or because I can't have you. It has nothing to do with me. I love what you are, what you do, how you try. I've seen your kindness and your strength. I've seen the best and the worst of you, and I understand with perfect clarity exactly what you are. You're a hell of a woman. You're the one, Buffy.
Jan 16 2008 11:08 pm #7Guest
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Em nothing too exciting un my opinion, I can't really remember. It's all just one big James shaped blur! I'm probably not the best person to be asking what happened because i really have no interest in the show. I don't really want to say anything anyways incase i spoil it for anyone who actualy follows the show.
Suffice to say james is on screen a good 75% of the time
Anyone know what other eppies he's going to be in?
Suffice to say james is on screen a good 75% of the time
Anyone know what other eppies he's going to be in?
Jan 16 2008 11:13 pm #8TammyDevil666
I heard that he was going to be on the first and last episode of the season, but I don't know for sure.
When I say, "I love you," it's not because I want you or because I can't have you. It has nothing to do with me. I love what you are, what you do, how you try. I've seen your kindness and your strength. I've seen the best and the worst of you, and I understand with perfect clarity exactly what you are. You're a hell of a woman. You're the one, Buffy.
Jan 17 2008 09:42 am #10Blood Faerie
You can watch it on SurftheChannel.com - that's where Xela sent me to ^.^
Now, tis checking out Hex
Now, tis checking out Hex
Unfortunately, we had big vampires in the next room, and I didn't think they'd wait while we had hot monkey sex. ~Cerulean Sins :: (Anita to Jean-Claude)“Is there anything your bloodline does that doesn’t involve getting naked?" ~Danse Macabre :: I’m dating three men, living with two more, and having occasional sex with two others. That’s seven men. I’m like a pornographic Snow White. I think seven is plenty. ~Danse Macabre
Hex was a big disappointment.. atleast turned into.. but there are some factors in it know some buffy fans will go buttery over.
A good british show? Jekyll
A good british show? Jekyll
Jan 17 2008 11:40 am #12Blood Faerie
(grr, i have to rewrite this long post and remember what i said because the stupid thing error-ed on me!)
Well, I'm halfway into the second episode and the thing that is annoying me so far is the overabundance of sexual content. I mean, I love smut as much as the next person and maybe even more so - but good gawd it isn't adding anything to the story, just seeming to be a way to keep the attention of horny little boys to boost their ratings. And my god, the self-proclaimed dike turned ghost girl got on my nerves from the get go. And why do I find myself macking on the way too pretty nephilim? lol
My favourite Brit-show is the Tribe and the site didn't have it, but Xela found it for me elsewhere. Though, she wasn't able to find me Atlantis High - oh well.
But, back to topic... I did watch that ep of Torchwood and was too scared to watch anymore eps. Though, Tina got a kick out of my reactions - "Did he just get a friggin hardon for a poodle??????!!!!!!!!"
Well, I'm halfway into the second episode and the thing that is annoying me so far is the overabundance of sexual content. I mean, I love smut as much as the next person and maybe even more so - but good gawd it isn't adding anything to the story, just seeming to be a way to keep the attention of horny little boys to boost their ratings. And my god, the self-proclaimed dike turned ghost girl got on my nerves from the get go. And why do I find myself macking on the way too pretty nephilim? lol
My favourite Brit-show is the Tribe and the site didn't have it, but Xela found it for me elsewhere. Though, she wasn't able to find me Atlantis High - oh well.
But, back to topic... I did watch that ep of Torchwood and was too scared to watch anymore eps. Though, Tina got a kick out of my reactions - "Did he just get a friggin hardon for a poodle??????!!!!!!!!"
Unfortunately, we had big vampires in the next room, and I didn't think they'd wait while we had hot monkey sex. ~Cerulean Sins :: (Anita to Jean-Claude)“Is there anything your bloodline does that doesn’t involve getting naked?" ~Danse Macabre :: I’m dating three men, living with two more, and having occasional sex with two others. That’s seven men. I’m like a pornographic Snow White. I think seven is plenty. ~Danse Macabre
Jan 17 2008 02:43 pm #13Guest
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Hi, I watched Torchwood last night and James was fab. It is worth watching for him.
I am a big Dr. Who fan and have tried to watch Torchwood before but to be honest - its crap. The main character Captain Jack is a sex pest and they made James' character the same, kinda. He definitely added a Spikeness to his performance which made it for me.
NOW if they could get James' character onto Dr. Who and cut out the bonk anything that moves element it would be great.
He will definitely be in it again, don't know how many shows though.
Oh I bought Cool Money before Christmas and that was great.
I am a big Dr. Who fan and have tried to watch Torchwood before but to be honest - its crap. The main character Captain Jack is a sex pest and they made James' character the same, kinda. He definitely added a Spikeness to his performance which made it for me.
NOW if they could get James' character onto Dr. Who and cut out the bonk anything that moves element it would be great.
He will definitely be in it again, don't know how many shows though.
Oh I bought Cool Money before Christmas and that was great.
Jan 18 2008 02:40 am #14Guest
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How was James in it? I heard he was going to be back for the last episode of that season.
Jan 18 2008 02:59 am #15Immortal Beloved
The Torchwood ep is being upload onto Youtube if anyone wants to see it. I don't have BBC America, so I won't be seeing it aired :kicks self for not letting husband spend more money on digital cable when he wanted to 'cause now she wishes she could watch James: 
Give me Spuffy, or give me death.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Lwu1iDuctWg
I found part one, though I don't know how long it will be up since youtube tends to remove those kinds of vids. The user also has four other parts up.
I found part one, though I don't know how long it will be up since youtube tends to remove those kinds of vids. The user also has four other parts up.
"Perhaps a great love is never returned."
-Dag Hammersjold
-Dag Hammersjold
I got torchwood (complete s2ep1) off of a torrent....
Tahlmorra lujhalla mei wiccan, cheysu.
Jan 18 2008 11:46 am #18Guest
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Having never watched it before, I thought James was a lot of fun, and the rest of the characters didn't spark for me at all. I wouldn't watch it if not for James. I usually find some character that interests me.....but not this show. I did love how many times we got to see James smile and grin - just doesn't happen enough on TV.
CM
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Jan 18 2008 08:41 pm #19Guest
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I agree with the person above me. It was so much fun seeing James play that type of character. When is James going to get his own show. I mean he has a habit of stealing or taking over shows. He needs his own show.
For some reason I would love to see him heading some show like CSI. But I think he loves doing Supernatural shows more.
Though I agree, he needs his own show. I know he was suppose to be in a Faith Spin-off before it fell through and he ended up on Angel instead, so he would have been probably the main male character in that show.
Though I agree, he needs his own show. I know he was suppose to be in a Faith Spin-off before it fell through and he ended up on Angel instead, so he would have been probably the main male character in that show.
"Perhaps a great love is never returned."
-Dag Hammersjold
-Dag Hammersjold
Jan 18 2008 08:49 pm #21Guest
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I would love to see him on Law and Order: SVU or Boston Legal as a regular. He has the sarcasm, wit, and heart for those shows.
Or, as a brilliant, sexy surgeon on Nip/Tuck, but he may end up stealing Dylan Walsh's thunder, so nevermind...
~Scarlet
Or, as a brilliant, sexy surgeon on Nip/Tuck, but he may end up stealing Dylan Walsh's thunder, so nevermind...
~Scarlet
GAH! Just thought of James AND Julian McMahon (not sure how that's spelled, sorry ) together in Nip/Tuck... *throws cold water on face* OMG! I'd never leave the house! Just keep watching it again and again!
xxx
) together in Nip/Tuck... *throws cold water on face* OMG! I'd never leave the house! Just keep watching it again and again!xxx
What can I tell you, baby? I've always been bad...
Jan 18 2008 09:14 pm #23Guest
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NOW if they could get James' character onto Dr. Who and cut out the bonk anything that moves element it would be great.
god no way. that's one of the most interesting things about his character especially if it mean he gets to snog JB.
Jan 18 2008 09:25 pm #24TammyDevil666
I managed to download the episode, but I'm still going to wait to watch it on the 26th. That is assuming I can wait that long for the James goodness...lol!
When I say, "I love you," it's not because I want you or because I can't have you. It has nothing to do with me. I love what you are, what you do, how you try. I've seen your kindness and your strength. I've seen the best and the worst of you, and I understand with perfect clarity exactly what you are. You're a hell of a woman. You're the one, Buffy.
Jan 18 2008 10:05 pm #25Guest
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How could you wait that long when you have the episode available already. I could never have the will power. Not when it comes to James Marsters.
I am about to watch it again.
I am about to watch it again.
So far, I've watched it 15 times since downloading it... I can almost recite verbatim every line JM says... oh lord... I'm addicted. 
Tahlmorra lujhalla mei wiccan, cheysu.
Jan 18 2008 11:14 pm #27TammyDevil666
Because I'm totally lame and want to watch it for the first time on TV...lol! I already saw the steamy kiss, so that will have to hold me over until then.
When I say, "I love you," it's not because I want you or because I can't have you. It has nothing to do with me. I love what you are, what you do, how you try. I've seen your kindness and your strength. I've seen the best and the worst of you, and I understand with perfect clarity exactly what you are. You're a hell of a woman. You're the one, Buffy.
GAH! Just thought of James AND Julian McMahon (not sure how that's spelled, sorry ) together in Nip/Tuck... *throws cold water on face* OMG! I'd never leave the house! Just keep watching it again and again!
Oh man, I've been saying that for AGES! I even made a wallpaper of the JMs to drool over back in the day lol.
) together in Nip/Tuck... *throws cold water on face* OMG! I'd never leave the house! Just keep watching it again and again!Oh man, I've been saying that for AGES! I even made a wallpaper of the JMs to drool over back in the day lol.
I've come to realize that (silly as it may sound) most of the actors that are incredibly sexy to me are Leos... So are both JMs!
Yeah, come on, laugh! lol
Yeah, come on, laugh! lol
What can I tell you, baby? I've always been bad...
I've only ever been obsessed with two actors, James Marsters and Johnny Depp. Maybe it's the cheekbones, lol. But I would love to see them in a movie together, it would be my wildest dream. It wouldn't matter to me if the movie sucked, I'd love it on principle.
"Perhaps a great love is never returned."
-Dag Hammersjold
-Dag Hammersjold
Jan 19 2008 03:34 am #31Immortal Beloved
****KABOOM****
<--just thought of Julian McMahon, Johnny Depp, and James Marsters all at once, and her head exploded.
<--just thought of Julian McMahon, Johnny Depp, and James Marsters all at once, and her head exploded.
Immortal Beloved
1977-2008
She Loved James
A lot
1977-2008
She Loved James
A lot
Give me Spuffy, or give me death.
Jan 19 2008 04:00 am #32SpikesKatMac
Ok, so just watched the episode, and gotta say, if I didn't love JM now, I'd love him after watching that episode; is it wrong that watching those two gorgeous guys kiss got me hot??? Gah. And that tender kiss at the end to say goodbye.... *sigh* Can't wait until the season finale, now, to see JM reprise his role. Watching him swagger around with the guns and the sword... *drools*....too bad he never made it onto Firefly; he would have been great butting heads with Jayne or Mal. God that man is hotness personified. But our darling is more than good looks; he just played the character so well!!! I laughed out loud in a couple of spots, and shook my head in amusement at others. Just a really good all-around episode, and gotta say Tammy, you're nuts; go watch the eppie NOW!! You don't know what you're missing, sweetie!!!! 
A beautiful and ineffectual angel, beating in the void his luminous wings in vain - Matthew Arnold
Jan 19 2008 04:33 am #33TammyDevil666
LOL, have to say, you guys are making me very tempted.
When I say, "I love you," it's not because I want you or because I can't have you. It has nothing to do with me. I love what you are, what you do, how you try. I've seen your kindness and your strength. I've seen the best and the worst of you, and I understand with perfect clarity exactly what you are. You're a hell of a woman. You're the one, Buffy.
Jan 19 2008 05:18 am #34goldenusagi
I would love to see him on Law and Order: SVU or Boston Legal as a regular. He has the sarcasm, wit, and heart for those shows.
Oooh, I love Boston Legal. Not sure if I could handle James Marsters and James Spader at the same time though.
Oooh, I love Boston Legal. Not sure if I could handle James Marsters and James Spader at the same time though.
Just watched it. I have to say, it was much better than anything in season 1, but I'm still not sure it makes me want to watch season 2. JM was brilliant, I love him to pieces and Captain John was all kinds of fun (and hot!), but all the scenes that didn't have him in it were pretty much dullsville. It was funnier than last season, which is a definite improvement, but none of those people have any chemistry with one another, and I'm really noticing how bad John Barrowman's acting is, especially when you compare him to JM.
Writing should feel easy, like a monkey driving a speed boat.
Jan 19 2008 06:44 am #36Guest
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Come to the dark side, Tammy, and watch the James Marsters do his thing on Torchwood. I promise you won't be disappointed.
Probably my favorite parts is the first couple of scenes of Captain John. The scene where he throws the man off the roof. Also, the part where he enters the bar and starts pointing to people who he wants to stay and who he wants to go. That part got me laughing big time. They all just looked at him like who is this man.
The thing about him going to 'murder rehab' got me laughing.
James does play these types of characters well. The guy who tries to stir things up. Great job, James.
Oh, and whoever says they they wished James Marsters and Johnny Depp were in a movie together. You are not the only one. Johnny has nice cheekbones as well. Not as sharp as James but still great. I would just love to see James act along Johnny though. I wouldn't know who to look at.
Probably my favorite parts is the first couple of scenes of Captain John. The scene where he throws the man off the roof. Also, the part where he enters the bar and starts pointing to people who he wants to stay and who he wants to go. That part got me laughing big time. They all just looked at him like who is this man.
The thing about him going to 'murder rehab' got me laughing.
James does play these types of characters well. The guy who tries to stir things up. Great job, James.
Oh, and whoever says they they wished James Marsters and Johnny Depp were in a movie together. You are not the only one. Johnny has nice cheekbones as well. Not as sharp as James but still great. I would just love to see James act along Johnny though. I wouldn't know who to look at.
Jan 19 2008 06:45 am #37Immortal Beloved
all the scenes that didn't have him in it were pretty much dullsville
I concur. I really liked the premise of the show, but the other actors were all kind of blah, except for that Barrowman character. Now, I will say that I haven't seen any other episodes, and putting anyone on the screen with James would make them seem dull, so maybe with Jimmy out of the picture, they might all shine a bit more. But, James has a tendency to steal the show. And I'm basing that purely on acting, not even the fact that he's so pretty That kind of makes me appreciate Sarah Michelle Gellar's acting more; she didn't disappear on the screen next to him. But, I digress...
Well, I thoroughly enjoyed that episode. It was way better than watching Without a Trace, and leaps upon leaps upon leaps upon leaping leaps better than Saving Grace. I'm sorry to say that not even Jimmy could make me pay attention what was going on on those shows But I was completely entertained for the whole episode of Torchwood.
Now, on to the Jimmy highlights James with guns? Frickin' hot. I don't even like guns, but Jimmy holding a gun in each hand made my stomach flip. James selecting people in the bar had me going, "Pick me! Pick me!" Still love the smashing of the face through the row of shot glasses. James's dialogue was hillarious. The woman who said, "What? Like you didn't notice--he's cute." We were all thinking it Um...Oh! Irony of James calling some other guy "eye candy?" Priceless. And the woman socking James in the face was awesome. Cannot wait for his other episode to air 
I concur. I really liked the premise of the show, but the other actors were all kind of blah, except for that Barrowman character. Now, I will say that I haven't seen any other episodes, and putting anyone on the screen with James would make them seem dull, so maybe with Jimmy out of the picture, they might all shine a bit more. But, James has a tendency to steal the show. And I'm basing that purely on acting, not even the fact that he's so pretty
That kind of makes me appreciate Sarah Michelle Gellar's acting more; she didn't disappear on the screen next to him. But, I digress...Well, I thoroughly enjoyed that episode. It was way better than watching Without a Trace, and leaps upon leaps upon leaps upon leaping leaps better than Saving Grace. I'm sorry to say that not even Jimmy could make me pay attention what was going on on those shows
But I was completely entertained for the whole episode of Torchwood. Now, on to the Jimmy highlights
James with guns? Frickin' hot. I don't even like guns, but Jimmy holding a gun in each hand made my stomach flip. James selecting people in the bar had me going, "Pick me! Pick me!" Still love the smashing of the face through the row of shot glasses. James's dialogue was hillarious. The woman who said, "What? Like you didn't notice--he's cute." We were all thinking it Um...Oh! Irony of James calling some other guy "eye candy?" Priceless. And the woman socking James in the face was awesome. Cannot wait for his other episode to air Give me Spuffy, or give me death.
Jan 19 2008 08:44 am #38SpikesKatMac
But, James has a tendency to steal the show. And I'm basing that purely on acting, not even the fact that he's so pretty
Couldn't agree more, he's one of the most talented actors I've ever seen. Putting aside the fact that he's eye candy, I think you could make him mute and he'd still be abel to have more lines than the other actors, simply because his face and body language are soooo expressive *begins drooling at thoughts of mute Spike getting his meaning across...*
IB, you forgot the part with the poodle!!! I almost ruptured something I laughed so hard!!!! That, the Vera line, and the Obi-Wan Kenobi part were probably my favorites. And the kiss!!! *drools again*
Couldn't agree more, he's one of the most talented actors I've ever seen. Putting aside the fact that he's eye candy, I think you could make him mute and he'd still be abel to have more lines than the other actors, simply because his face and body language are soooo expressive *begins drooling at thoughts of mute Spike getting his meaning across...*
IB, you forgot the part with the poodle!!! I almost ruptured something I laughed so hard!!!! That, the Vera line, and the Obi-Wan Kenobi part were probably my favorites. And the kiss!!! *drools again*
A beautiful and ineffectual angel, beating in the void his luminous wings in vain - Matthew Arnold
I found it funny about the Star Wars reference. He used Yoda his first time as Spike, and now Obi-Wan Kenobi as Captain John.
My favorite was when they were debating who was the wife, it was great. But I agree the other character's seemed a bit dull, I couldn't really get into them.
My favorite was when they were debating who was the wife, it was great. But I agree the other character's seemed a bit dull, I couldn't really get into them.
"Perhaps a great love is never returned."
-Dag Hammersjold
-Dag Hammersjold
Now, I will say that I haven't seen any other episodes, and putting anyone on the screen with James would make them seem dull, so maybe with Jimmy out of the picture, they might all shine a bit more.
I watched all of season 1, and sadly, without James, they went from being dull to being actually unlikable. I think I prefer them dull. Also, rather than outshining them, I think James pulled them all up - he set the bar way higher than they're used to, and they all did their best to match it. The gang (I want to call them "Scoobies," lol) seemed in much better acting form than I've ever seen them, but the question is whether they can maintain it without James there. The only exception was, like I said, John Barrowman, because I think normally HE is the bar they try to meet, and in this episode, we saw just how much lower that mark is than James'.
Irony of James calling some other guy "eye candy?" Priceless.
The thing is (which I'm sure you didn't realize, if you haven't seen the show before), except for one episode where he played a decent role, I can't figure out what Ianto's purpose is on this show EXCEPT to be eye candy. So I snorted pretty hard at that one, because Captain John got it right on the money. He was also right on the money with liking Tosh (the Asian girl) right away, because she's the only one of the lot of them I can stand.
The one non-JM thing that I found pretty entertaining was the beginning, when the gang is shown as barely holding it together without Jack. That was hilarious. Then Jack came back and it was all doom and gloom again with the team dynamics. I can see absolutely NO chemistry between Jack and Ianto, and no sexual tension between Jack and Gwen, so those two scenes fell flat (the one where Jack asks Ianto on a date, and where Jack finds out Gwen's engaged... and don't even get me started on how much that disgusts me, after what Gwen did to her boyfriend last season, but of course, she wiped his memory, so he still thinks they're a happy couple). I rolled my eyes so hard at Owen's "I think I want to settle down" speech (Owen is scum of scum, and no amount of "I've found my true love!" will redeem him for me), and I felt bad for Tosh because he's only getting her hopes up, and inevitably she's gonna get hurt (and she's the only one I like).
I watched all of season 1, and sadly, without James, they went from being dull to being actually unlikable. I think I prefer them dull. Also, rather than outshining them, I think James pulled them all up - he set the bar way higher than they're used to, and they all did their best to match it. The gang (I want to call them "Scoobies," lol) seemed in much better acting form than I've ever seen them, but the question is whether they can maintain it without James there. The only exception was, like I said, John Barrowman, because I think normally HE is the bar they try to meet, and in this episode, we saw just how much lower that mark is than James'.
Irony of James calling some other guy "eye candy?" Priceless.
The thing is (which I'm sure you didn't realize, if you haven't seen the show before), except for one episode where he played a decent role, I can't figure out what Ianto's purpose is on this show EXCEPT to be eye candy. So I snorted pretty hard at that one, because Captain John got it right on the money. He was also right on the money with liking Tosh (the Asian girl) right away, because she's the only one of the lot of them I can stand.
The one non-JM thing that I found pretty entertaining was the beginning, when the gang is shown as barely holding it together without Jack. That was hilarious. Then Jack came back and it was all doom and gloom again with the team dynamics. I can see absolutely NO chemistry between Jack and Ianto, and no sexual tension between Jack and Gwen, so those two scenes fell flat (the one where Jack asks Ianto on a date, and where Jack finds out Gwen's engaged... and don't even get me started on how much that disgusts me, after what Gwen did to her boyfriend last season, but of course, she wiped his memory, so he still thinks they're a happy couple). I rolled my eyes so hard at Owen's "I think I want to settle down" speech (Owen is scum of scum, and no amount of "I've found my true love!" will redeem him for me), and I felt bad for Tosh because he's only getting her hopes up, and inevitably she's gonna get hurt (and she's the only one I like).
Writing should feel easy, like a monkey driving a speed boat.
here is a little Torchwood Fun Thing -
http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/262/s2_member.jsp
Is there a site where the KKBB is posted other youtube? I read something about torrents but don't know what that refers to - thanks for any help with this.
Plus - I scan a high res JM from the TVGuide article - will post later at my flickr pages -
http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/262/s2_member.jsp
Is there a site where the KKBB is posted other youtube? I read something about torrents but don't know what that refers to - thanks for any help with this.
Plus - I scan a high res JM from the TVGuide article - will post later at my flickr pages -
” Recent evolutionary models have demonstrated what politicians have long known: the best way to get people to collaborate and to think like a group is to identify an enemy and charge that “they” threaten “us.”
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
I have it saved on my comp... in .rar format (compressed) if you want to download it... let me know and I'll drop a url on here where you can get it
Tahlmorra lujhalla mei wiccan, cheysu.
Jan 19 2008 09:55 pm #43FetchingMadScientist
www.sidereel.com/torchwood. That's where I got it. You need divx to watch it, but you can download the player. The ep is called "Kiss kiss, Bang, bang" The line about the poodle...LOL! And, when he asked if the group had a name, I half expected something like..."You're not the 'Scooby Gang ' are you? 'Cause, that is so...old."
"Never a fetching mad scientist about when you need one." -Spike
Jan 20 2008 03:13 am #44Blood Faerie
I mentioned I watched it on SurftheChannel.com
Unfortunately, we had big vampires in the next room, and I didn't think they'd wait while we had hot monkey sex. ~Cerulean Sins :: (Anita to Jean-Claude)“Is there anything your bloodline does that doesn’t involve getting naked?" ~Danse Macabre :: I’m dating three men, living with two more, and having occasional sex with two others. That’s seven men. I’m like a pornographic Snow White. I think seven is plenty. ~Danse Macabre
Here are the links for my Flickr site - Posted a high res scan from the TV Guide article - save to target if you want the largest file unless you have fast download - And thanks for the link to watch episode -
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nmcil/2204603515/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nmcil/2204601029/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nmcil/2204603515/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nmcil/2204601029/
” Recent evolutionary models have demonstrated what politicians have long known: the best way to get people to collaborate and to think like a group is to identify an enemy and charge that “they” threaten “us.”
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
I loved the part where Gwen is talking to her boyfriend on the cell and Captain John is talking over her.
I guess I'm in the minority, but I really liked season 1 of Torchwood. Of course, I watched all the episodes in two days. (I've been sick and had nothing better to do). I had only seen one episode before seeing "Kiss, Kiss, Bang, Bang". I liked all the characters. I guess I'm just easy. I've seen flaws in some of the episodes, but nothing that would bother me so much that I'd stop watching. I didn't think the acting was all that bad *shrugs* James did outshine them all, but he always does.
I guess I'm in the minority, but I really liked season 1 of Torchwood. Of course, I watched all the episodes in two days. (I've been sick and had nothing better to do). I had only seen one episode before seeing "Kiss, Kiss, Bang, Bang". I liked all the characters. I guess I'm just easy. I've seen flaws in some of the episodes, but nothing that would bother me so much that I'd stop watching. I didn't think the acting was all that bad *shrugs* James did outshine them all, but he always does.
My problem isn't really the acting or the silly plots... I mean, come on, it's a Doctor Who spin-off. Did you expect it to be anything other than campy and ridiculous? My main problem is that I just cannot find any of the characters likable. I find Gwen and Owen absolutely despicable, Jack is disappointing (after seeing Doctor Who Jack, who is apparently a much more fun person than Torchwood Jack), and Tosh and Ianto pretty much fade into the background, except to occasionally have ill-advised romantic entanglements. I did kind of like Tosh by the end of season 1 - I thought she was good in the 1940s time loop thing - and I really have no opinion of Ianto since he hasn't actually DONE anything. Most of the episodes seem to focus on Jack, Gwen, and Owen, and since I can't muster up any sympathy for them, I find it very hard to get into the show.
Writing should feel easy, like a monkey driving a speed boat.
guess I'm in the minority, but I really liked season 1 of Torchwood.
I like Torchwood very much, especially the last three episode - I did think that the ending solution was a little weak. If they had done one more episode about the World Destroying Demon let loose on the world and some of the science, the finale would have been stronger and more interesting. Much as it was nice to see that nice young ghost man, I would have preferred one more finale arc episode.
I like Torchwood very much, especially the last three episode - I did think that the ending solution was a little weak. If they had done one more episode about the World Destroying Demon let loose on the world and some of the science, the finale would have been stronger and more interesting. Much as it was nice to see that nice young ghost man, I would have preferred one more finale arc episode.
” Recent evolutionary models have demonstrated what politicians have long known: the best way to get people to collaborate and to think like a group is to identify an enemy and charge that “they” threaten “us.”
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Jan 20 2008 08:41 pm #49Guest
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I've only seen James' episode, but that's the first show I've come in to and felt nothing for the other characters. Nobody clicked with me, and that's very rare for me, as I've come halfway into other mythologies and still found someone to like without knowing any back story. Though John Barrowman's acting did make me laugh.
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Jan 21 2008 12:39 am #50Guest
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I'm sorry people, but JM is not the God you all seem to think he is. For the first half of Torchwood he seemed to act as if he was Spike - sorry, but he is not Spike anymore. As for him being the best actor ever to walk the earth, come on people - get a grip on reality. If he was that good, then Hollywood would have beckoned by now. All he gets is bit parts in films and a few episodes of the odd series now and again. He was fantastic as Spike, but to be honest I have not really been impressed with anything else he has done since BtVS and Angel finished. I was never a fan of David Boreanaz as Angel as I did not like the character, but give the man his due at least when he plays Booth in Bones he does not remind you of Angel. Please get some perspective here - if you don't like Torchwood then that is your opinion, but do not try to say that JM is saving the show because I can assure you he is not. I am sure that all you BtVS fans would be livid if people who did not understand the premise of BtVS started to slate it. Torchwood has a following too people, and some of us actually like both shows. If you don't like my opinion, I don't really care as I have been offended some of yours.
Jan 21 2008 12:49 am #51Scarlet Ibis
Well, it's good to know who's opinion this is. Oh wait...
And no one ever actually said James Marsters is a god. (looks around) Well, I didn't anyway. But he is a hell of an actor. Not everyone has to be a fan of everything, but it's clear that the man has a strong following--how many people have watched something they would normally have no desire to because of him?
And no one ever actually said James Marsters is a god. (looks around) Well, I didn't anyway. But he is a hell of an actor. Not everyone has to be a fan of everything, but it's clear that the man has a strong following--how many people have watched something they would normally have no desire to because of him?
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Well, no offense, but you sort of have to expect that, on a website dedicated to Spuffy fanfiction, you're going to find a lot of JM/Spike fans. I think a bias towards the actor is going to be pretty much expected. I really don't think it's necessary to come here and tell us to get a grip on reality. No one has suggested that JM is "saving the show" - it's hard to save a show when you're only going to be on two episodes. What we are suggesting is that JM's appearance made Torchwood more enjoyable for some of us who have watched Torchwood from the beginning, and gave people who'd never heard of the show a reason to watch it. I think it's a good thing for Torchwood that JM is bringing in a new audience - certainly some of them will only watch for him, but I'm sure some people will be intrigued by what they see and continue to tune in to the series.
Personally, I watched the whole first season, both out of curiosity that JM would be guest starring and because I'm a Doctor Who fan and thought I'd like this, too. Well, I didn't. I kept with it, just to give it a fair chance, but after having seen JM's episode, I honestly think it was the best episode so far, and I really have no desire to continue watching it if they don't keep up the higher standard they set with KKBB. I do think that higher standard was due in part to JM - even the actors themselves have mentioned that having a really good guest star like JM raises the level of performance for the whole cast.
Personally, I watched the whole first season, both out of curiosity that JM would be guest starring and because I'm a Doctor Who fan and thought I'd like this, too. Well, I didn't. I kept with it, just to give it a fair chance, but after having seen JM's episode, I honestly think it was the best episode so far, and I really have no desire to continue watching it if they don't keep up the higher standard they set with KKBB. I do think that higher standard was due in part to JM - even the actors themselves have mentioned that having a really good guest star like JM raises the level of performance for the whole cast.
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Jan 21 2008 03:30 am #53Guest
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Wait, you mean to tell me that James Marsters isn't a God? I am so disappointed. All this time I thought he was a God. Wow!!!!!!
Anyways, if you don't think James is all that good of an actor then that is your opinion. But of course his fans are going to think he is. The reason why we are his fans. Does he act every scene or part great? No. But those scenes that he does act great is wonderful. There is a reason why a lot of shows that he is in usually want him back for more.
And Hollywood isn't always about the best actor. I thought most people knew that. There are a lot of big actors that are not that talented.
James is 45 years old. I am not going to think that he is going to become the next big thing. But I think he is doing well for himself. I don't think he wants to a big star but just have steady work. And that is all I want to. So, I can continue to see him in new things.
And why do people always feel the need to always bring up David Boreanaz when it comes to James Marsters. Is David a good actor. Yeah, I think he is. But I could care less about him though. I am not a fan of his.
Anyways, if you don't think James is all that good of an actor then that is your opinion. But of course his fans are going to think he is. The reason why we are his fans. Does he act every scene or part great? No. But those scenes that he does act great is wonderful. There is a reason why a lot of shows that he is in usually want him back for more.
And Hollywood isn't always about the best actor. I thought most people knew that. There are a lot of big actors that are not that talented.
James is 45 years old. I am not going to think that he is going to become the next big thing. But I think he is doing well for himself. I don't think he wants to a big star but just have steady work. And that is all I want to. So, I can continue to see him in new things.
And why do people always feel the need to always bring up David Boreanaz when it comes to James Marsters. Is David a good actor. Yeah, I think he is. But I could care less about him though. I am not a fan of his.
James Marsters was intentionally asked to create a Spike style character that we saw in early season - I loved the episode and loved his portrayal of Capt John, he was everything from the arrogant stone cold killer, funny side-man and cold blooded manipulator. Considering the script, I think the creators were very happy with, and wanted, a Spike variation. And One thing is sure, at 45 being selected to play one of the major villains in an action scifi film like Dragonball is a great statement about his skills and "on film" presence.
Speaking of another Buffy actors - did anyone have a chance to see Anthony Head as Sir Walter Elliot in the new BBC Jane Austen "Persuasion" - he look great and did a fine interpretation of the character. Unfortunately the screen adaption eliminated the explanation of his arrogance, pride, and narcissistic character traits and so unless you know the novel much of the character is lost -
Speaking of another Buffy actors - did anyone have a chance to see Anthony Head as Sir Walter Elliot in the new BBC Jane Austen "Persuasion" - he look great and did a fine interpretation of the character. Unfortunately the screen adaption eliminated the explanation of his arrogance, pride, and narcissistic character traits and so unless you know the novel much of the character is lost -
” Recent evolutionary models have demonstrated what politicians have long known: the best way to get people to collaborate and to think like a group is to identify an enemy and charge that “they” threaten “us.”
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Jan 21 2008 04:55 am #55Immortal Beloved
What we are suggesting is that JM's appearance made Torchwood more enjoyable for some of us who have watched Torchwood from the beginning, and gave people who'd never heard of the show a reason to watch it.
:nod: I'd never watched Torchwood and can say with 99.9% surety that I would never have watched if James weren't a guest star. I thoroughly enjoyed the episode, and that was quite a relief as the other shows he's been on in the recent past have damned near bored me to tears. So, obviously, even if I found the supporting characters of Torchwood a bit dull, at least the writing and the storyline kept me awake
As for Hollywood recognizing gifted actors, they rarely do. There are some very talented actors in movies, but there are also many not-so-talented actors. In the film industry, it is often the box office numbers that decide the movies that get made and the people who star in them.
:nod: I'd never watched Torchwood and can say with 99.9% surety that I would never have watched if James weren't a guest star. I thoroughly enjoyed the episode, and that was quite a relief as the other shows he's been on in the recent past have damned near bored me to tears. So, obviously, even if I found the supporting characters of Torchwood a bit dull, at least the writing and the storyline kept me awake
As for Hollywood recognizing gifted actors, they rarely do. There are some very talented actors in movies, but there are also many not-so-talented actors. In the film industry, it is often the box office numbers that decide the movies that get made and the people who star in them.
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Jan 21 2008 01:05 pm #56SpikesKatMac
least when he plays Booth in Bones he does not remind you of Angel
True, true. But he certainly reminds me of Angelus!!!
True, true. But he certainly reminds me of Angelus!!!
A beautiful and ineffectual angel, beating in the void his luminous wings in vain - Matthew Arnold
If he was that good, then Hollywood would have beckoned by now.
OMG! *nods vigorously* you're sooo right! Cuz Hollywood is all about acting! *Smacks forehead* Should have realized that sooner! As in NOT!
BTW, he has been offered roles that he had to turn down because of his son and needing to be close to him, and to cast a man his age for a role in a movie made famous because of a cartoon shows that they acknowledge his acting. They could have gotten any kid to do it and pay them for the chance!
Or maybe he'll be playing Spike there too... cuz that's all he can do, right? Oh--I know! A green Spike!!!
Sorry for the rant!
And btw, I really liked David as Angelus. Angel was what I had a problem with, not the guy's acting!
OMG! *nods vigorously* you're sooo right! Cuz Hollywood is all about acting! *Smacks forehead* Should have realized that sooner! As in NOT!
BTW, he has been offered roles that he had to turn down because of his son and needing to be close to him, and to cast a man his age for a role in a movie made famous because of a cartoon shows that they acknowledge his acting. They could have gotten any kid to do it and pay them for the chance!
Or maybe he'll be playing Spike there too... cuz that's all he can do, right? Oh--I know! A green Spike!!!
Sorry for the rant!
And btw, I really liked David as Angelus. Angel was what I had a problem with, not the guy's acting!
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Jan 21 2008 02:32 pm #58Guest
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As someone who watched Dr. Who as a child when Tom Baker was the Dr. (the 80's and 90's Dr.s where a terrible crime and will not be mentioned again), this new wave Dr. has blown me away.
Last year I thought I was going to love Torchwood but I gave it 3 programmes and then gave up. Watched S2 because of JM and thought he was good and it was worth watching for him. I also have to admit it was a little better all round - except the other characters are just not likeable enough.
JM has took second best, he actually wanted to appear on Dr. Who but he was shifted over to Torchwood where I think they actually wrote in the "Spikeness" of the character. Capt. Jack even pinched Spike's sticky out tongue laugh.
I think he did the show because it was fun and gave him a chance to work for British TV. He made the most of part but didn't change my opinion of the show.
Last year I thought I was going to love Torchwood but I gave it 3 programmes and then gave up. Watched S2 because of JM and thought he was good and it was worth watching for him. I also have to admit it was a little better all round - except the other characters are just not likeable enough.
JM has took second best, he actually wanted to appear on Dr. Who but he was shifted over to Torchwood where I think they actually wrote in the "Spikeness" of the character. Capt. Jack even pinched Spike's sticky out tongue laugh.
I think he did the show because it was fun and gave him a chance to work for British TV. He made the most of part but didn't change my opinion of the show.
Jan 22 2008 04:52 am #59goldenusagi
I just watched it on youtube, since I don't get the channel it'll be airing on. I loved the "wife" argument, as everyone else did, and the bit when Captain John appraises Jack's team. "Torchwood, oh dear." "You need a blonde." Liked the guns, but I don't remember if we got to see him use that cool sword he was posed with in the promo pics. And I also liked the end, when she's dragging him towards the (portal?) and he's all panicking and going on about "what about a team rescue?" Overall, good to see James in something else, he did a good job with the role. Oh, and he got to use the accent again! Or at least a close copy of it. Love the accent! I haven't watched Torchwood before, and probably won't after James leaves it, but Dr. Who is still on my to do list.
Jan 22 2008 10:02 am #60Kimmyadams
From Kimmyadams
could someone provide links on the net to download the show for me? I am not that computer literate here and need some help.
All you get are short snippets on youtube and that drives me absolutely nutso.
Oh, what channel does Torchwood air on in the US? Scifi channel?
Thanks
could someone provide links on the net to download the show for me? I am not that computer literate here and need some help.
All you get are short snippets on youtube and that drives me absolutely nutso.
Oh, what channel does Torchwood air on in the US? Scifi channel?
Thanks
Kimmy
Jan 22 2008 02:21 pm #62goldenusagi
The youtube link is http://youtube.com/watch?v=Lwu1iDuctWg
The user has the whole episode up, in 7 different parts. Watch quickly, though, as there's no telling when it'll be taken off.
The user has the whole episode up, in 7 different parts. Watch quickly, though, as there's no telling when it'll be taken off.
here's a link to a torrent download for Kiss Kiss Bang Bang.
www.bt-chat.com/details.php
you will need a program like bittorrent or utorrent to download it.
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Jan 22 2008 08:08 pm #64Kimmyadams
I have a realplayer downloader and use it to easily download off of youtube and just finished downloading the clips and want to thank goldenusagi for the location tip. Anytime I am afraid of something being taken off, I just download it and have hundreds of Btvs clips when i need a quick Spike fix.
James was a lot of fun to watch and I thoroughly enjoyed the episode. Oh, by the way, he is in the trailer for the next episode if anyone is interested...He may be on the show more than anyone thinks, at least I hope.
Thanks everyone for your help!
James was a lot of fun to watch and I thoroughly enjoyed the episode. Oh, by the way, he is in the trailer for the next episode if anyone is interested...He may be on the show more than anyone thinks, at least I hope.
Thanks everyone for your help!
Kimmy
Jan 22 2008 08:13 pm #65Kimmyadams
Oh, Shadow, forgot to thank you for the info but I have a very hard time with bit torrent stuff. I can only do so much with the computer before I am totally lost. I can't even upload a picture for my account and that is so irritating beyond belief!
I wouldn't mind help if anyone has a clue...
Thanks!
I wouldn't mind help if anyone has a clue...
Thanks!
Kimmy
Jan 22 2008 08:51 pm #66Guest
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The trailer was actually for the rest of the series as a whole. James won't be back until the last episode.
Thanks for posting the youtube link, Nika.
How can anyone not love that? That episode was like a brilliant piece of AU fanfiction: Spike gets amnesia, is stuck in some time warp, adopts a new persona, gets a bunch of guns and has sex with everything that moves. Rock on, Torchwood. I've never seen you before but I think I wanna get to know you better.
I do agree about the chemistry between the regular characters, though -- kinda dull. James clearly needs to be in every single episode.
*nods*
How can anyone not love that? That episode was like a brilliant piece of AU fanfiction: Spike gets amnesia, is stuck in some time warp, adopts a new persona, gets a bunch of guns and has sex with everything that moves. Rock on, Torchwood. I've never seen you before but I think I wanna get to know you better.
I do agree about the chemistry between the regular characters, though -- kinda dull. James clearly needs to be in every single episode.
*nods*
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hi Kimmyadams -
if your icon is posted at flickr go to the All Sizes and copy past the lower link info at your account - this should allow your image to show.
if your icon is posted at flickr go to the All Sizes and copy past the lower link info at your account - this should allow your image to show.
” Recent evolutionary models have demonstrated what politicians have long known: the best way to get people to collaborate and to think like a group is to identify an enemy and charge that “they” threaten “us.”
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=M55BtXv0j_0
Clip of the next episode JM will be in Torchwood, Exit Wounds.
Clip of the next episode JM will be in Torchwood, Exit Wounds.
"Perhaps a great love is never returned."
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I am really liking Torchwood this season - and I am so glad that I have comcast and can watch the episode often as I want on BBC on demand -
” Recent evolutionary models have demonstrated what politicians have long known: the best way to get people to collaborate and to think like a group is to identify an enemy and charge that “they” threaten “us.”
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
I'm really liking Torchwood, too. It's all James' fault. I would have never watched it, if he hadn't guest starred. And now, I'm also a Dr. Who fan.
I don't feel moved at all to write fan fiction for either of the shows, but I do make icons and art work of them. The only character who's ever compelled me to write about them is Spike. : )
I don't feel moved at all to write fan fiction for either of the shows, but I do make icons and art work of them. The only character who's ever compelled me to write about them is Spike. : )
I just purchased the season 1 dvd and have started doing some work - I did a cyberwoman piece with Lanto and I did a good hi res scan from the TV guide cover of JM as Capt Hart - Looking forward to the season finale - it looks to be excellent. I have been a Dr. Who fan for a long time -
” Recent evolutionary models have demonstrated what politicians have long known: the best way to get people to collaborate and to think like a group is to identify an enemy and charge that “they” threaten “us.”
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
It's just finished and it was a brilliant roller coaster series finale - all is not as it seems. James was just terrific and shows his tender side along with his anarchic one. Hopefully we've not seen the last of Captain John.
I am eagerly waiting for a download to become available. I keep checking for one. Can't wait!
Apr 05 2008 09:14 am #77Guest
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1ZbbdtBv4Q&feature=user
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxHssag1DJ8&feature=user
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBePF5IONFo&feature=user
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2c5SDKyBAU&feature=user
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxBBvZff4-k&feature=user
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOT1ChX9SYw&feature=user
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5DKet9DrZg&feature=user
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HfxosfYKcw&feature=user
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvwbTO2sG7Y&feature=user
Parts one through nine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxHssag1DJ8&feature=user
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBePF5IONFo&feature=user
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2c5SDKyBAU&feature=user
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxBBvZff4-k&feature=user
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOT1ChX9SYw&feature=user
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5DKet9DrZg&feature=user
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HfxosfYKcw&feature=user
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvwbTO2sG7Y&feature=user
Parts one through nine
Apr 06 2008 12:17 am #78Immortal Beloved
Thanks, Guest! Don't know what I'd do without you guys
Give me Spuffy, or give me death.
Wonderful season finale - thank you so much for the links - the episode tonight is terrific - if you get a chance watch it on BBC on demand later this week -
JM was again excellent - have to say though that I felt the character was written almost like they wanted Capt Hart to be a tiny bit softer, which is great except they have him doing such extreme actions. I did however like the episode was a good conclusion.
” Recent evolutionary models have demonstrated what politicians have long known: the best way to get people to collaborate and to think like a group is to identify an enemy and charge that “they” threaten “us.”
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Apr 06 2008 11:01 pm #80Guest
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The finale was amazing, and quite sad, I was on the verge of tears twice, first when Tosh said ''Because you're breaking my heart'', and second when they were viewing her message at the end... James was great, but he always is, although that wrist-strap-coming-off scene, I really didn't have to see. *crings*
''Because you're breaking my heart'',
Climax of their entire scenes - Both were so excellent at their ending and it was such a heart ache at the end - Wonder why they got rid of these characters - I guess that the writers felt like they could not resolve the tension that came from Tosh's love for him - I hope that both characters do make appearances in the series in "after death" forms. With all the wonderful episodes that had been created around both of them I guess I should not have been surprised with their death - after all, Owen had died already.
like the Angel opening titles, they characters were shown as groups - the three that remain and two that were leaving.
Think I will try to watch again before the episode is removed.
Climax of their entire scenes - Both were so excellent at their ending and it was such a heart ache at the end - Wonder why they got rid of these characters - I guess that the writers felt like they could not resolve the tension that came from Tosh's love for him - I hope that both characters do make appearances in the series in "after death" forms. With all the wonderful episodes that had been created around both of them I guess I should not have been surprised with their death - after all, Owen had died already.
like the Angel opening titles, they characters were shown as groups - the three that remain and two that were leaving.
Think I will try to watch again before the episode is removed.
” Recent evolutionary models have demonstrated what politicians have long known: the best way to get people to collaborate and to think like a group is to identify an enemy and charge that “they” threaten “us.”
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
Michael Tomasello is co-director of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology.
I felt the character was written almost like they wanted Capt Hart to be a tiny bit softer, which is great except they have him doing such extreme actions.
Love's bitch again?
Love's bitch again?
Apr 08 2008 12:45 am #83SpikesKatMac
I loved it; for not liking the show except when JM is on it, Tosh's scenes were hearbreaking!!! When she said that line, "Because you're breaking my heart", I just about died. That was sooo good. And JM was wonderful, as always. The part where he's got Jack in chains in Torchwood, and he's all "And you belittled me, in front of people!" and Jack's like "You're serious??!!??" Hilarious!!! JM owns that character; it's awesome. They seem to have hinted that the character will be back, so I'll be watching for more eppies with our boy!
A beautiful and ineffectual angel, beating in the void his luminous wings in vain - Matthew Arnold
Apr 08 2008 01:24 am #84Immortal Beloved
I loved it; for not liking the show except when JM is on it
I just got a chance to watch it last night. I've only ever watched the two episodes with James in them. I tried imagining the show without him, and it did seem like it might not be for me. But, I suppose I'd have to watch a Jimmy-free episode to be sure. I have to say that I do love him in this role, and he does seem to mix well with the other actors. I'd be a happy camper if he were brought back again.
I just got a chance to watch it last night. I've only ever watched the two episodes with James in them. I tried imagining the show without him, and it did seem like it might not be for me. But, I suppose I'd have to watch a Jimmy-free episode to be sure. I have to say that I do love him in this role, and he does seem to mix well with the other actors. I'd be a happy camper if he were brought back again.
Give me Spuffy, or give me death.
Apr 08 2008 09:31 am #85Guest
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What about that line, ''Until I chained, nobody listens'' (or something like that), who else thought about Spike in Crush? *grins*
Apr 08 2008 09:43 am #86Guest
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Yeah, the nobody listens unless I chain them up line HAD to be a nod to Spike.......it was immediately where my mind went, and I know the writers were Buffy fans.
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:wave:
:vampire:
:moon:
:D
:boohoo:
:tongue:
:shake:
:lurk:
:happy:
:announce:
:stupid:
:grr:
:)
:wazzup:
:right:
:insane:
:crap:
:poke:
:stalker:
:taped:
:grrarg:
:throughpc:
:fic:
:halo:
:help:
:clap:
:eyebrows:
:bday:
:dance:
:needsmut:
:lash:
:neener:
:bow:
:wall:
:spank:
:butthead:
:hair:
:suck:
:get:
:spuffy:
:soon:
:vamps:
;-)
;)
:-(
:P
:O
:-O
:-D
:blush:
:-)
:cheer:
:sleep:
:pigsfly: