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Do you Think He Went Soft?There was no way for the writers to keep Spike amoral and completely evil and still incorporate him into core group. And, he was always a softy for love, anyway. I think it's one of the reasons most people fell in love with him.
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Oh man, so I wrote this whole thing and then my computer decided to be dumb and it all went away. Here I go trying to recreate it.
I don’t think spike “went soft” per say. I’m torn on this subject because it is one I’ve mulled over quite a bit. I personally like pre-buffy whipped spike over buffy whipped spike. I think some of his best stuff was between when dru left him and when buffy found out that he loved her. But even when he was a puddle at buffy’s feet, he still had his moments. I think that our perception of spike changed more as we got to know him, because even before buffy, he was completely devoted to dru. He’s the type of guy that’s hard as a rock on the outside but has a nice gooey middle, that he doesn’t really want people to see. As viewers, we only got a gloss over of his relationship with dru, but I think that she used him just as much as buffy but was more discreet about it. (and when I say discreet, I mean very very sneak and backstabbyish) I think spike’s biggest problem in life was that he just wanted to be loved, and that opened the gateway for any one that showed him some attention to run all over him, which dru and buffy both did. With all that said, I can see how some many people would think that being with buffy made him soft, but I don’t think that is necessarily the case. I think that he’s the kind of person that pours all he has into whatever holds his fancy. When he was with dru, she was evil so he was. Even when he was a fledge he always tried to play at the man game. He saw that angel had the power and he wanted it. Not so much to be in charge, but to show that he wasn’t as weak as others preserved him to be. I think that being with buffy just changed the direction in which his devotion was directed. On that note as well though, I don’t really think he was all that evil. We all saw that, with the exception of his brief stint as crazy basement spike, the soul didn’t change him that much overall. And finally to whether or not being with buffy made spike stronger, I think that it did. I think that when she died, it showed him that he could go on without her. as well as when he died, that there was more to life then her and that he could make it on his own. Because once he got to w & h, he was able to be his own man and even make friends, that weren’t connected to her in any way.
So, now that i'm fairly certain that was WAY more then you wanted, I’ll go now.
Is Spike a "fool for love?" Yes. Is his heart mush when it comes to that? Yes. Is he still a vampire? Yes. Is he still dangerous? Ask Robin Wood that question. I think he would say yes.

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Also, am the the only one who though dirty thoughts when I read that. This sentence "the outer shell so hard you need a nutcracker (or to crack Spike's nuts) to get to the oh-so tasty meat in side"
I think you meant it to sound dirty. Yup!!!!!!
I don't like crab though. My brother-in-law does. He is the one who got me to try crab. It wasn't for me. I will Spike though. Yummy
I didn't mean it when I typed it; but, after I finished the sentence, yeah, my mind did go there
I, however, love crab






















































































