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Aug 30 2008 03:08 pm   #1sosa lola
Do you enjoy reading about three characters in love? Do you even believe that someone could love two people the same amount?
 
I am flexable, I like to read anything new and different. Only threesomes I've read were Buffy/Spike/Xander, Spike/Xander/Angel and Spike/Xander/Giles and I've actually enjoyed them, it's a nice change, but the obsession didn't last long, it wasn't my thing anymore.
Aug 30 2008 04:44 pm   #2Guest
I believe it is possible to love more than one person, like Willow loving both Oz and Tara. I do not think it is possible to love two people the same amount in the same way and be fair to both of them. I also think love or sharing an intimate experience should be exclusive, something special shared between two people, so I never liked sex with more than two people.
Aug 30 2008 05:24 pm   #3sosa lola
I don't mind reading threesome as in sex and nothing else, but for three people to be in a relationship, I can't see it as real that all of them like the other two the same amount.
Aug 30 2008 07:57 pm   #4Eowyn315
I'm not big on threesomes. I agree with the guest who said Willow could love both Oz and Tara, but I can't really see her in a relationship with both at the same time.

The only threesome I've ever enjoyed is Buffy/Spike/Angel, because each person has a deep and complicated relationship with both other parties, and the interrelated dynamics are crazy angsty. However, I think what makes it interesting is that all of them DON'T love the other two the same. The triangle is always being wrenched in one direction or another, and usually ends up breaking apart. I can't possibly buy the three of them in a stable relationship for more than five minutes, but I like the angst of the triangle.
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Aug 30 2008 09:58 pm   #5Guest
I love Spuffel (Spike/Buffy/Angel) stories because all the three are supernatural creatures and I can suspence my disbelief. Also, Joss created the perfect triangle where they make each other complete. Buffy's light opposes Spike and Angel's  darkness. Angel's responsibility opposes Buffy and Spike's light-minded-ness. Spike's snarky attitude opposes Buffy and Angel's inner drama queens.

As to human characters - I'm not sure I can buy it.

Aug 30 2008 10:12 pm   #6MoscowWatcher
Eowyn_315 I agree with the guest who said Willow could love both Oz and Tara, but I can't really see her in a relationship with both at the same time.

I love Shadowscast's' That Good Night with Willow-Oz-Kennedy threesome. Somehow she makes them believable.

http://www.livejournal.com/tools/memories.bml?user=shadowscast&keyword=That+Good+Night&filter=all

Aug 30 2008 11:51 pm   #7sosa lola
That fic you described, Eowyn, sounds like a good read. :) I don't think Buffy minds having both Spike and Angel, she did dream about them in her nurse outfit, didn't she? Hee
Aug 31 2008 09:41 pm   #8slaymesoftly
Hee! I'm sure Buffy would be happy to have them both. Who wouldn't? LOL  I've read only a very few that could convince me that it might work, though.  Herself, I think, did one not terribly long ago - there was a magical reason for the menage a trois, and she made it work for me.  I've also read a wonderful little short one in which Buffy has married a shanshued Angel but is in love with Spike.  Because she won't hurt Angel, she and Spike have stolen moments together when he is in town and staying with them. It's not really a threesome, because Angel has no idea that Spike and Buffy are anything but friends. Very angsty and well done, though.

As far as three people being in love equally - I doubt it. Very rarely are even two people in love in exactly the same way or the same amount. There is always one who gives more, loves more, tries harder. 

Most threesome fics I've seen (and I do not seek them out, trust me) have had thin stories and seem to exist just as an excuse to write threesome sex -- which is not my thing, so I don't read them unless I have to.  Like I said above, I don't think it's likely to work in RL or fic, and it takes a special author to make it believable.

Having said that, if anyone could do it, it would probably be shadowscast, so I'll be checking out MoscowWatcher's link. lol

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Sep 01 2008 12:21 am   #9MoscowWatcher
I hope you'll like Shadowscast' stuff, Slaymesoftly.

Also, Miss Murchison's threesomes are great character studies. Her sex scenes (Buffy, Spike and Angel) aren't about sex. They are about heroes' insecurities, desires and attitude to life.


Sep 01 2008 01:39 am   #10Guest
This is probably the best Spike/Buffy/Angel fic I've ever read:

http://www.athenewolfe.com/justrewards/viewstory.php?sid=1270

I think it does it very well, it's not fluffy and it doesn't start out perfect. They have to work at the relationship all three of them, and it shows insecurities that can come with that kind of relationship. It's a bit AU from season three.
Sep 01 2008 05:40 pm   #11Eowyn315
That fic you described, Eowyn, sounds like a good read.
Oh, it's not a particular fic. Just the general interaction among those three that I think makes the most sense, both from seeing them in pairs, and some elements of various fics I've read.
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Sep 02 2008 06:39 am   #12TammyDevil666
I'm not really a huge fan of threesome stories.  I wrote Buffy/Spike/Angelus once, but there was no love involved.  I also wrote Buffy/Spike/Faith, but of course it didn't last and Spike ends up with Buffy, so obviously she was the one he loved.  I rarely can have them with anyone else, and I definitely can't have Spike love someone else.  My Spuffy heart just won't allow it.
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Sep 02 2008 11:28 am   #13sosa lola
Tammy, even if your Spuffy heart won't allow it, I see this as the most believable thing. Though I'd feel bad for Faith, tell me she found someone after Spike and Buffy ditched her. :(
Sep 02 2008 12:14 pm   #14Always_jbj
I'm sure Buffy would be happy to have them both. Who wouldn't?

Me! *waves hand* I think Angel/David is icky! lol I have never understood what anyone sees in him. And while David is, apparently, a lovely guy, Angel is a first class prick. So, um, yeah...pass.

If I was Buffy I'd ask for an extra Spike instead. *goes off to re-read Double Spiked* lol
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Sep 02 2008 12:39 pm   #15sosa lola
I'd rather have Spike and Xander to myself, but, sigh. They're fictional. I wouldn't mind adding Giles as well. Those three are my weak point, hence me reading a threesome about them. Guilty pleasure you may say. LOL
Sep 02 2008 07:27 pm   #16TammyDevil666
Yes, sosa, Faith found someone else.  I am a Faith fan, I just don't really want her with Spike, even though I have written that a couple times now.  I wouldn't mind having both Spike and Angel, or Xander, I think those are the main ones for me.
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Sep 02 2008 08:18 pm   #17sosa lola
I'd like to have goofy Angel!!! He's adorable! *imagines Spike, Xander, Angel and Giles doing the snoopy dance. Spike says "Bugger this" and then she'll have to spank him* Evil laugh!

What would I do with those hotties? Giles will give me a charming smile, Spike and Xander will smirk and Angel will grin goofily, because that's when I find them all attractive. I'll make them come up with clever insults toward each other, that'll make me hot.

Ehm, we were talking about threesomes, right? *shoos her pets under the bed and tries not to imagine what they'll do there*
Sep 02 2008 09:46 pm   #18Guest
 Slaymesoftly-I've also read a wonderful little short one in which Buffy has married a shanshued Angel but is in love with Spike.  Because she won't hurt Angel, she and Spike have stolen moments together when he is in town and staying with them. It's not really a threesome, because Angel has no idea that Spike and Buffy are anything but friends. Very angsty and well done, though.

This sounds like a great read do you or anyone know the name, author or link?
Sep 03 2008 07:43 am   #19nmcil
Slaymesoftly-I've also read a wonderful little short one in which Buffy has married a shanshued Angel but is in love with Spike. Because she won't hurt Angel, she and Spike have stolen moments together when he is in town and staying with them. It's not really a threesome, because Angel has no idea that Spike and Buffy are anything but friends. Very angsty and well done, though. This sounds like a great read do you or anyone know the name, author or link?

I would also like to read this one - hope someone can supply a link or title for us -
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Sep 03 2008 12:28 pm   #20sosa lola
Slaymesoftly-I've also read a wonderful little short one in which Buffy has married a shanshued Angel but is in love with Spike. Because she won't hurt Angel, she and Spike have stolen moments together when he is in town and staying with them. It's not really a threesome, because Angel has no idea that Spike and Buffy are anything but friends. Very angsty and well done, though.

Awww, Poor Angel, lol.  Wish he caught them :D That would add to the angst, but it sounds that a very well written ficlet :)
Sep 06 2008 12:51 am   #21Guest
Does anyone have the name of the story or author of the above ? I would really like to read it.
Sep 30 2008 03:28 am   #22YesMyPet
I'd like to read that too!

I don't buy threesomes as "three people who all love each other" but I buy them as love triangles or a sexual encounter.  They can't be random, though, like Spike, Buffy, and some chick from The Bronze, or Xander... because I think Xander's character wouldn't do that.



Sep 30 2008 01:13 pm   #23slaymesoftly
I believe it's by Bearfacedcheek, but it could also be an Anaross story. I'll try to find it and post the url. It really is quite good. A real tear-jerker.
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Sep 30 2008 06:12 pm   #24sosa lola
because I think Xander's character wouldn't do that.

Won't do what? Threesomes? The guy who followed Willow and Tara to have sex with them in his own dream :D
Sep 30 2008 06:28 pm   #25Guest
Ask any straight guy, and he'll be with two girls in a heartbeat, but not in a threesome with only one girl. They don't want to see or bump into another man's stuff. ;)

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Sep 30 2008 08:00 pm   #26Scarlet Ibis
I don't know--some guys might be okay with running a train--two guys and one girl makes it more plausible for a guy to get to do anal, so he might not pass it up for those reasons.  Just saying ;)
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Oct 01 2008 04:55 am   #27YesMyPet
Good point, Scarlet Ibis.

But I think a guy having a threesome with his best college buddy and a guy he has said he can't stand are different. 

Hey, I'm not judgin' if someone's into Spike/Buffy/Xander threesome fics, it's just kind of hard for me to imagine.  Could be a failure of my imagination!

Xander and two women? Sure!  Spike and two women? Sure!  I think I like the arc of Spuffy too much to write one with her sharing him though, unless she was really angry and competing with the other woman to "do him better".  :D

We should do a challenge fic like this...

Oct 01 2008 05:04 am   #28Scarlet Ibis
Oh, I didn't mean Spike/Buffy/Xander...I meant in general ;)

Spike would never share Buffy like that.  Unless it was before he was in love with her, and it was Angelus.  Yep.  And even then, it's tricky.   In fact, I don't think Spike would do a threesome with any guy (cept Angelus, again).  He'd do it with two girls though.  Foursomes...nothing new there either.

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Oct 01 2008 02:14 pm   #29sosa lola
Honestly, I'm not into threesomes, because I don't believe it.'s gonna have a happy ending to all parties invloved.  I can see Spike/Buffy/Xander happening but not all of them being in love with each other. One of them is gonna be a third wheel no matter what.  I have read two fics with this threesome and all of them end up happily, both fics were enjoyable and creative but I hated both endings.
Oct 12 2008 03:17 am   #30GoldenBuffy
I've only read one threesome fic, can't even remember the name, but it was Buffy/Spike/Angel.  Oh, wait, I've read two. The first one I really can't remember much the second it was after the battle with the Black Thorne. Buffy finds both Angel and Spike and they end up doing the dead ina  few places, and Buffy decides that she wants both of them, and Angel and Spike are willing to share, just to be with her. The other fic, all I remember is that both vamps entered teh threesome only for Buffy. And once the night was over all three went their seprate ways. Both fics were well written and I enjoyed them, but neitehr we believable for me. Like Spike would just give Buffy up like that. Angel, I can see doing, since he did it before.

Threesomes just don't work for me. Well at least for Buffy and Spike. Oh, wait, I read anther one that wasn't finished by Zoe, it was Buffy/Spike?Angelus. Now that one worked for me, since it was all kinds of kink and darkness and blood. It was awesome. Totally feed my BDSM fetish/kink. So I guess I can say if it's dark and kinky and done right it can work for me.
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